Trap and Vent – A Drain Debacle

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This is a recent call I ran that clearly had an interesting past. It had a condensate pump to pump the water just a few feet up to a drain that went to a common drain. The “cleanout” after the trap is supposed to be a vent, not a cleanout, which means it needs to be uncapped and vented higher than the indoor drain pan so that if the drain backs up the water goes back into the system and trips the condensate switch.  With the current position, the vent could not be raised because it would come right up in front of the filter.

My best guess is that when the installing contractor installed a new, larger air handler it no longer had the fall they needed to get the existing drain so they capped the vent (seen in the photo above before it goes into the wall).

I’m using this system as an example because it has every possible drain don’t you could come up with

  • No Cleanout
  • No float switch (condensate switch) to prevent pan overflow
  • Vent Improperly placed or causing filter obstruction
  • Using a pump when one wasn’t originally needed
  • Using a common drain with no vent
  • No insulation on the condensate drain horizontal runs

We did rectify as much of it as we could here which included

  • Adding a condensate switch
  • Repiping with a proper cleanout and vent before the pump
  • Insulating the horizontal portions

Unfortunately, we couldn’t eliminate the pump and I forgot to take “after” photos

This is an example of a drain properly pitched, insulated, trapped and vented with a system and secondary pan switch installed. Two things I do notice on this one is the pan doesn’t look like it overlaps 3″ at the top of the unit, The cleanout would be better right above the trap and I can’t tell what’s supporting this drain to ensure the pitch stays correct.

It’s amazing how much there is to the simple, humble condensate drain.

— Bryan

2 comments

  1. Avatar sprockkets says:

    I never understood why FL does this. Up north we all just put a drain in the floor and drain it that way. Only one place in FL that I every went to drained it by going into the drain for the washer in the floor below.
    It’s got to be the most annoying and problematic way to do condensate drains. And if you do any places in Baldwin park those are the worst – running drains from the 2nd floor down, then out back behind the garage, which has got to be over 100ft of drain.

  2. Avatar sdunham2 says:

    Drains being a substantial amount of my calls during the A/C season in the northeast, I do have to say that sticking to the old 3/4″ solid PVC traps is a pain when rectorseal makes a cleanable drain trap that can be installed just as easy (yes and one that comes with a float switch). Other than cost, is there a particular reason why people still choose not to use these types?

    https://www.amazon.com/Rectorseal-83114-113B-Trap-Brush/dp/B00BMUFSGI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ZJ0OY9L2Y2V6&dchild=1&keywords=rectorseal+83114+2+ez+113b+trap+kit+with+brush&qid=1586054641&sprefix=rectorseal+113%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-1

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